In 2014, during one of Israel’s deadliest assaults on Gaza, Seth Rogen was among two hundred Hollywood entertainers who signed a statement in defense of Israel. But this week, on Marc Maron’s podcast, Rogen, a prominent Jewish actor and comedian, said the State of Israel makes no sense to him.

“I don’t understand,” Rogen said. “To me it just seems like an antiquated thought process. If it’s for religious reasons, I don’t agree with it because I think religion is silly. If it is truly for the preservation of Jewish people, it makes no sense, because again, you don’t keep something you’re trying to preserve all in one place, especially when that place has proven to be . . . pretty volatile. ‘I’m trying to keep all these things safe, I’m going to put them in my blender and hope that that’s the best place! That will do it!’ It doesn’t make sense to me.”

He went on to explain: “I also think that as a Jewish person, I was fed a huge amount of lies about Israel my entire life. They never tell you that oh by the way, there were people there. They make it seem like it was just sitting there — oh, the fucking door’s open!”