German Rearmament Is a Terrible Idea

Ole Nymoen
Oscar Davies

In Germany, podcaster Ole Nymoen has become public enemy number one for supporters of the government’s rearmament campaign. He spoke to Jacobin about his new book against militarization and on the need for a renewed peace movement.

German soldiers march during a military ceremony in front of Bellevue Palace in Berlin on July 22, 2025. (Malin Wunderlich / picture alliance via Getty Images)

Interview by
Ady Zymberi

The three years since Russia invaded Ukraine have seen governments across the European Union ramp up defense spending, with politicians and talking heads routinely droning on about the need to make our societies “combat-ready.” In few EU member states has this turnaround been more pronounced than in Germany.

Given its own dark history, it had long sought diplomatic reconciliation with Russia, promoting “change through trade” with Moscow and opposing NATO expansion into former Soviet republics. Today the mood has shifted radically, with politicians across all parties voting through hundreds of billions of euros in additional defense spending. In the name of resisting the Russian threat, the political establishment has even dropped its once-sacred public-debt limits.

It would seem that the drive for rearmament is also having an effect on the population, with recent polls suggesting that two-thirds of Germans support reintroducing mandatory conscription, some fifteen years after it was abolished. Young people, for decades a bastion of antiwar and anti-militarist sentiment in German society, increasingly appear open to serving in the army and doing their bit to defend the country.

One young person who refuses to go along with the new mood is the popular podcaster Ole Nymoen, a columnist for Jacobin’s German edition. Since publishing the book Warum ich niemals für mein Land kämpfen würde (“Why I Would Never Fight for My Country”), Nymoen has become a lightning rod for criticism from center-right and center-left alike. They denounce him as an entitled, champagne socialist at best — and a national traitor at worst. Jacobin’s Ady Zymberi spoke with Nymoen about his new book, the firestorm of controversy it caused, and why he feels no affinity with the German state.


Ady Zymberi

Your book is called “Why I Would Never Fight for My Country,” but neither Europe nor democracy are countries. Would you also not fight for them?

Ole Nymoen

The title is clearly provocative. I am not a patriot, I am not a nationalist, but it’s not only about Germany. I wouldn’t die for so-called Western values or for Germany.

Ady Zymberi

Can a person read your book and be persuaded even if they don’t share your fundamental criticism of the nation-state?

Ole Nymoen

The question is: How open-minded are readers? There certainly are people who from time to time are willing to have their opinions upended or who are ready to question divinely ordained facts. The Germany of today, for example, is not a union of free people. That’s just not the way nations come together. Nations are, as a rule, the product of historical wars. I believe that other people could open up to arguments along these lines.

Ady Zymberi

Are you not afraid of Russia invading and taking over?

Ole Nymoen

No, I’m not afraid of that, because I think a Russian attack is unrealistic. I certainly think it would make my standard of living worse. The question, though, is whether we should be ready to give our lives to prevent that. And I have to honestly say: no, I’d rather be alive than dead.

Ady Zymberi

You must have written your book before Donald Trump was back in the Oval Office. Many European politicians no longer see the United States as a reliable ally. Some people say that Europe is defenseless against authoritarian powers. Does the fact that Trump appears to be dismantling the Western community of values change your opinions in any way?

Ole Nymoen

A world order is currently being called into question. That’s frightening, of course. But that world order was based on violence that the US and its allies were allowed to carry out. It’s not clear right now how the US will behave in the future, but I think it’s unrealistic to anticipate an end to the postwar world order. At most, there will be a greater focus on China.

Ady Zymberi

You say you wouldn’t fight for your country. But do you sympathize with other Germans or Ukrainians who would?

Ole Nymoen

I can understand to some extent when people say that they are not ready to accept a decline in their standard of living at the hands of another regime. That they are ready to fight for that — I understand that in the abstract. This isn’t really the question, however, because the state doesn’t give them any choice in the matter.

In Ukraine, the right to conscientious refusal of military service has been suspended since the beginning of the war. Anyone who insists on that right will end up in prison — if they’re lucky. If they’re unfortunate, they’re just hauled into the army regardless and a few weeks later they’re on the front lines.

And that’s not something that’s particularly Ukrainian. I don’t think any state can behave differently. Every state must be prepared to sacrifice the lives of its citizens, otherwise it’s not a state and cannot continue to exist as a state in this world. And that gives rise to a question that we, as citizens, can ask ourselves: Is that actually a sensible way to organize society?

Ady Zymberi

Isn’t this entire line of argument totally individualistic? Don’t we also need an idea of a communal identity that we’d be prepared to defend?

Ole Nymoen

I don’t believe that I belong to one collective, distinct from the rest of the world, and made up of people who happen to have been born into the same nation-state as me. There’s nothing that separates me from the rest of the world and unites me with all other Germans.

In fact, in each nation there’s an enormous mass of opposing opinions that clash with one another, especially when it comes to the economy. The idea that the people of a nation share something special in common apart from the fact that they are subject to the same state is, in my opinion, wrong.

Ady Zymberi

Doesn’t each state have the right to self-determination, which must sometimes be defended? Isn’t sovereignty something worth defending?

Ole Nymoen

The question is: What kind of sovereignty is that? The sovereignty of the state is the sovereignty of a ruling force over the people who live in the state. And the only reason people are pitted against one another in wars is because these sovereigns, called “states,” are constantly redefining what they claim for themselves, constantly trying to expand their claim to power. I’d say that these claims to sovereignty of competing nation-states are the cause of the miserable conditions that most of the people in the world live in. That’s true not only with regard to military matters but also economic ones.

States only engage in military conflict in exceptional cases. As a rule, the competition plays out in economics. If the German state wants to ensure its competitiveness — we could also say, ensure its economic sovereignty — then it has to be ready to reduce unemployment benefits for people. Then Volkswagen cuts pay for its employees again, because production is cheaper somewhere else in the world. So I don’t believe that this world of competing sovereigns is good for the people who live in it.

And to say, “I have my sovereignty if I’m ruled by someone from my own people” is to me nonsense. I don’t feel like I have sovereignty when German chancellor Friedrich Merz dismantles the welfare state. I also don’t feel like I have sovereignty when the government builds up the military, and the economy is turned into a war economy — quite the opposite.

Ady Zymberi

That’s something that many people in Germany with a migration background, especially from Eastern Europe, surely have a different opinion on. Is your book only for “native” Germans?

Ole Nymoen

Some journalists flaunt their post-Soviet identity, but they’re silent when it comes to the actual conditions in those countries. Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian men are hiding in their homes, afraid of being forcibly recruited on the street and dragged away to the front lines. They seem to see things similarly to how I see them — and certainly not because they want to live under Vladimir Putin’s regime. But at the end of the day, they also say: “Rather alive than dead.” And their state won’t allow them that freedom.

Ady Zymberi

What do you think of the recently passed debt package, allowing Germany to borrow more to invest in the military?

Ole Nymoen

Firstly, it’s noteworthy that what for years we were told was impossible is now possible. The state is taking on debt on a massive scale. But the purpose is to produce things that, in the best case, won’t be used. In the worst case, there’s war, and then those things will be used to kill people.

That means they’re using state credit to create something that’s not useful for society. They’re also very ready to accept certain inflationary policies to achieve this goal. In previous years that was unthinkable. Investment in climate policies, on the other hand, would have actually reduced inflation and helped people.

Ady Zymberi

Germany’s largest defense company, Rheinmetall, recently proposed taking over idle Volkswagen plants. What do you say about that?

Ole Nymoen

Previously those plants were used to build cars that ordinary people bought. If they produce tanks now, ordinary people won’t benefit at all. I think it’s obvious that those are two completely different things in terms of how sensible they are.

Ady Zymberi

Many progressive economists are welcoming the debt package because it’s expected to have a positive impact on the German economy. Greece’s former finance minister Yanis Varoufakis, however, believes that Germany is trying in vain to create a new economic model with this military Keynesianism because the automotive industry is slowly stagnating. Where do you stand on that issue?

Ole Nymoen

Rearmament may cause an increase in GDP, but the pool of resources that can be used by society will not grow at all. It’s insane that competing states waste human labor and natural resources in such a senseless way — and only for the production of tools of murder, which the politicians themselves certainly won’t be using to beat each other’s heads in.

Ady Zymberi

Do you think that military conscription, which the conservative Christian Social Union, among others, is calling for, is also a means of introducing cheap labor?

Ole Nymoen

Years ago, [German president Frank-Walter] Steinmeier wanted a year of social service, meaning men and women would have to work for the federal government or in other civil jobs. And I consider that a realistic possibility. It would certainly be successful as a temporary solution. Because the military is not able to train many people yet. And especially now, in times of so much political tension around security, hardly anyone will want to comply with this military conscription anyway. So everyone will go into civil work, and then the state can, to an extent, use cheap labor to fill jobs it might otherwise have had to cut back on.

Ady Zymberi

Do you see any allies in German society for the fight against military conscription? And how much hope do you have for German youth organizations?

Ole Nymoen

Well, if we’re talking about party-affiliated youth organizations, the Young Liberals, along with the Left Youth, are probably the ones most likely to mobilize against military conscription. The head of the Green Youth, Jakob Blasel, has publicly said that anyone who is not willing to defend Europe with weapons is lacking in solidarity. And I haven’t heard much against military conscription from the Social Democratic Party so far. Probably because they’re afraid of exposing themselves to the accusation that they are unpatriotic and have unrealistic ideas. I mean, there’s certainly a lot of people there who want to rise up the ranks of the party.

There is a peace movement in Germany, but there aren’t many young people involved in it. Because people have the feeling that war is a long way off, no new antiwar movement has been built. There are still many people from the older generations in the movement, because they’ve experienced what war means. But the further away you get from it, the fewer new recruits there are among the younger generations. That is, of course, a problem for any social movement.

Ady Zymberi

What can young people do to oppose military conscription or rearmament in general?

Ole Nymoen

First and foremost, every young man can prepare an application for conscientious refusal of military service — even if they shouldn’t send it off yet. In the current moment, it’s better to stay off the authorities’ radar. As of now, the Basic Law [i.e., the German constitution] at least ensures the right to refuse military service. That means that even in moments of high tension or aggression, you would only be called up for civilian purposes. Working near the front lines as a paramedic is very, very dangerous. But it’s still better than being in the trenches. And that way you send a very clear signal to the state: I won’t stand for it!

And there are civil-society organizations and resistance groups. Last year, I attended a conference for students campaigning against the overturning of the civilian clause for universities. That clause has so far ensured that universities do not have to serve military purposes. There are levers that you can set up and that you can use to make clear to the state that you are determined not to fight.

They may only be many drops in a bucket, but it’s certainly better than doing nothing. And it makes it clear that you’re not going to stand for it. For all I can say to young people is: you only live once!

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Contributors

Ole Nymoen cohosts the podcast Wohlstand für Alle and is a columnist at the German edition of Jacobin. His most recent book is Warum ich niemals für mein Land kämpfen würde.

Ady Zymberi works as the operations manager at Brumaire Verlag, publisher of Jacobin in Germany.

Oscar Davies is a writer and translator based in London.

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