Chapo Trap House, Between Hope and Nihilism
Chapo Trap House’s Matt Christman on pulling angry young men away from the alt right, consumption choices as politics, the grotesqueries of American life, and his commitment to “optimism of the will and all that shit.”

Chap Trap House‘s Matt Christman on election night 2016. YouTube
Chapo Trap House is a leftist podcast whose hosts swear sometimes. These characteristics have been enough to make many centrist liberals deeply angry and their show extremely popular.
The co-hosts have a new book out, The Chapo Guide to Revolution: A Manifesto Against Facts, Logic, and Reason. Incredibly, it’s on the New York Times bestseller list.
On the occasion of the book’s release, Jacobin managing editor Micah Uetricht recently spoke with Chapo co-host and Chapo Guide co-author Matt Christman.