Donald Trump’s ambitious budget reconciliation bill includes tax breaks for the rich, the single largest cut to food stamps as hunger hits a two-decade high, and a $1 trillion cut to Medicaid. Given this bevy of unpopular policy, it’s little wonder why few politicians have singled out the bill’s historic budget for immigration and border enforcement. But it would be a mistake to think that the bill’s significant expansion of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is any less a threat to the working class than these bread-and-butter issues.

To understand why, Jacobin sat down with Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, a senior fellow at the American Immigration Council, where he works on issues of immigration policy and advocacy. We spoke about the bill’s provisions for expanded detention and deportation, ICE’s potential staffing issues, and how deportation at the scale Trump envisions would require a transformation of the relationship between law enforcement and the American people.