Conor Oberst is one of the most prolific singer-songwriters of the last twenty years. Best known for his work with Bright Eyes, Oberst has also collaborated with Flea, Jim James, Alt-J, and Phoebe Bridgers. His most recent song, “Miracle of Life,” featuring Phoebe Bridgers, raised money for Planned Parenthood and opposed Donald Trump’s nomination of Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court.

Oberst sat for an interview with Jacobin’s Garrison Lovely this fall. They talked a bit about politics (Oberst made public stances against the Iraq War and supported Bernie Sanders’s presidential runs) and a lot about music. You can listen to an unabridged audio version of this interview on Lovely’s podcast, The Most Interesting People, here. This transcript has been edited for length and clarity.