Last Friday, Dan Denvir, of Jacobin Radio‘s The Dig, hosted Bernie Sanders and Larry Krasner, Philadelphia’s radical district attorney, in a wide-ranging discussion of criminal-justice reform. They were also joined by Jacobin contributor Keeanga Yamahtta-Taylor and veteran defense laywer Premal Dharia.

Following that conversation, Dan spoke one-on-one with Sanders about left electoral politics, the importance of movement-building, and how to take on the Democratic establishment. Though he cautioned that much work is left to be done, Sanders struck an optimistic tone: “The momentum is with us.” Here’s the interview.